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Return Pubs!
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""Pubs were outdated, we need to update game to modern gaming standarts, blah blah blah..."
If you keep thinking that's why Valve made Meet your match update, you are probably right, it is the reason. But is it upside of new system? NO, CLEARLY NO! It made it worse! Join my Steam Group if you want to return pubs and quickplay.
https://test-steamproxy.haloskins.io/groups/returnpubs"
8 Comments
hunterakagman 30 Nov, 2018 @ 1:54pm 
We got community and casual. Those are the pubs.
SeriousApache  [author] 30 Nov, 2018 @ 11:24am 
Man, by "upside" i mean "some actions, which one thing perfom better then another thing". And what you said is clearly not fitting this definition.
We still have "clusterfuck of players with diffrent amout of skill" and you could "play competitively but also has space for those who wants to chill out, get goofy or even be friendly" before. It was and will be forever. It is not because of server searching system, it is more because of players.
But what about ACTUAL UPSIDES of pubs and casual? Man, pubs had A LOT of them, there is probably-not-full list of them: https://test-steamproxy.haloskins.io/groups/returnpubs/discussions/0/3020122487784584032/
Lyra 30 Nov, 2018 @ 10:56am 
There's no point bringing old quickplay back. Casual mode has a portion of people who want to play competitively but also has space for those who wants to chill out, get goofy or even be friendly. Old publics, as I remember them, were just clusterfuck of players with diffrent amout of skill all over the server leaving and joining in rapid waves with no order whatsoever so it's understandable that Valve wanted to stop this by introducing matchmaking. And yes, if the Casual after Meet your Match would be same as Casual we have today, I would stand on your side but now, at the start of every match, you can form a team of players which you can be sure you'll play with (most of) them the entire match.
Today matchmaking is comfy, perfectly balanced for any type of player whether for friendies, average players or even for epic gamers.

TL;DR: Matchmaking, unlike Quickplay is stable, comfortable for all, balanced and there's no point coming back to the 2010 version of pubs.
SeriousApache  [author] 30 Nov, 2018 @ 9:56am 
It is not. Can you bring example of any upside that casual has over old pubs?
Lyra 30 Nov, 2018 @ 7:07am 
Casual is now way better than old pubs. I'm not saying that casual was better at the MyM time...
Brewieshipper52 28 Nov, 2018 @ 10:12am 
Oh ok i liked the qwick play to
SeriousApache  [author] 28 Nov, 2018 @ 3:46am 
I have nothing against Jungle Inferno, i just need to put here something to show that they didn't go back after Meet your match. The "casual" is direct downgrade to quickplay/pubs (all resons are listed in my group), and that's why we need to go back.
Brewieshipper52 27 Nov, 2018 @ 11:09pm 
none of this is true both updates made the game betterrrrrr