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[Archived] SAS Soft Caps
By eStecko
Before the "End Game" update, DD2 featured a mechanic which has given you stat points for each level, until you've hit level 50. This system had soft caps, from which point, each invested SAS point has given less statistical improvement. This guide is currently retired and archived due to historical keeping. <3
   
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Guide Index
Overview
Introduction 
Cheat Sheet / tl'dr 
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Apprentice 
Archer 
Monk 
Squire 
Abyss Lord 
Series EV2 
Gunwitch 
Mystic 
Lavamancer 
Comments
Introduction
Guide retired.

Note for 28/2/2017 (End Game) update:

    The Stat Allocation System
  • The previous Stat Allocation System is retired.
  • You will be able to find many similar options in the Ascension system and level them to the MAX.

Alrighty, currently the game shows how much X stat you'll for each point before you invest into it, so there is no real point with transitioning of this guide into Ascension one, unless there is a soft cap - if there is one at all. In either case, this guide will be archived due to history keeping and nostalgia.

Anyway, have fun and thanks for coming around. :)
Cheat Sheet / tl'dr
Alternative for easier reading...[docs.google.com] - link to Google Spreadsheets

Hero Damage
- Archer - 20 points.
- Abyss Lord, Apprentice, Series EV 2, Gunwitch, Monk, Squire, Mystic, Lavamancer - 15 points.

Hero Health
- Apprentice, Archer, Gunwitch, Mystic, Lavamancer - 15 points.
- Abyss Lord, Series EV 2, Monk, Squire - 100 points

Defense Damage and Defense Health
- All classes - 15 points
- Gunwitch gains no benefits from this stat.

Ability Power
- Apprentice, Gunwitch, Lavamancer - 20 points
- Abyss Lord, Archer, Series EV 2, Monk, Squire, Mystic - 15 points

Hero/Defense Crit Damage
- All classes - 15 points
- Gunwitch gains no benefits from Defense Crit stat. But her Hero Crit seems to scale way better.

Defense Speed/Range
- No diminishing returns for any class, 1:1 ratio.
- Gunwitch gains no benefits from this stat.
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Details by class can be found below.
Apprentice
Hero Damage
- 15 points.
~50 Hero Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 752 points. After that, you'll get 4 Hero Damage for each point.

Hero Health
- 15 points.
~75 Hero Health per point up to 15 points, making up total of 1149 points. After that, you'll get 3 Hero Health for each point.

Defense Damage/Health
- 15 points.
12 Defense per point up to 15 points, making up total of 188 points. After that, you'll get 1 Defense for each point.

Ability Power
- 20 points.
~12 Ability Power per point up to 20 points, making up total of 250 points. After that, you'll get 1 Ability Power for each point.

Hero/Defense Crit Damage
- 15 points.
~43 Crit Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 658 points. After that, you'll get 3.5 Crit Damage for each point.

Defense Speed/Range
Those two stats have no diminishing returns. Their scaling is 1:1 all up to the end.
Archer
Hero Damage
- 20 points.
~62 Hero Damage per point up to 20 points, making up total of 1250 points. After that, you'll get 5 Hero Damage for each point.

Hero Health
- 15 points.
~62 Hero Health per point up to 15 points, making up total of 970 points. After that, you'll get 2.5 Hero Health for each point.

Defense Damage/Health & Ability Power
- 15 points.
~12 Defense/AP per point up to 15 points, making up total of 188 points. After that, you'll get 1 Defense/AP for each point.

Hero/Defense Crit Damage
- 15 points.
~43 Crit Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 658 points. After that, you'll get 3.5 Crit Damage for each point.

Defense Speed/Range
Those two stats have no diminishing returns. Their scaling is 1:1 all up to the end.
Monk
Hero Damage
- 15 points.
~31 Hero Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 470 points. After that, you'll get 2.5 Hero Damage for each point.

Hero Health
- 100 points.
~75 Hero Health per point up to 100 points, making up total of ~7500 points. After that, you'll get 4 Hero Health for each point.

Defense Damage/Health & Ability Power
- 15 points.
~12 Defense/AP per point up to 15 points, making up total of 188 points. After that, you'll get 1 Defense/AP for each point.

Hero/Defense Crit Damage
- 15 points.
~43 Crit Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 658 points. After that, you'll get 3.5 Crit Damage for each point.

Defense Speed/Range
Those two stats have no diminishing returns. Their scaling is 1:1 all up to the end.
Squire
Hero Damage
- 15 points.
~35 Hero Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 526.4 points. After that, you'll get 2.8 Hero Damage for each point.

Hero Health
- 100 points.
~80 Hero Health per point up to 100 points, making up total of 8000 points. After that, you'll get 4 Hero Health for each point.

Defense Damage/Health & Ability Power
- 15 points.
12 Defense/AP per point up to 15 points, making up total of 188 points. After that, you'll get 1 Defense/AP for each point.

Hero/Defense Crit Damage
- 15 points.
~43 Crit Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 658 points. After that, you'll get 3.5 Crit Damage for each point.

Defense Speed/Range
Those two stats have no diminishing returns. Their scaling is 1:1 all up to the end.
Abyss Lord
Hero Damage
- 15 points.
~30 Hero Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 450 points. After that, you'll get 2.5 Hero Damage for each point.

Hero Health
- 100 points.
~170 Hero Health per point up to 100 points, making up total of 17,000 points. After that, you'll get 8 Hero Health for each point.

Defense Damage/Health & Ability Power
- 15 points.
~13 Defense/AP per point up to 15 points, making up total of 201 points. After that, you'll get 1 Defense/AP for each point.

Hero/Defense Crit Damage
- 15 points.
~45 Crit Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 675 points. After that, you'll get 3.5 Crit Damage for each point.

Defense Speed/Range
Those two stats have no diminishing returns. Their scaling is 1:1 all up to the end.
Series EV2
Hero Health
- 100 points.
~142.4 Hero Health per point up to 100 points, making up total of 14,242.5 points. After that, you'll get 7.5 Hero Health for each point.

Hero Damage
- 15 points.
~75.2 Hero Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 1,128 points. After that, you'll get 6 Hero Damage for each point.

Defense Damage/Health & Ability Power
- 15 points.
~12.5 Defense/AP per point up to 15 points, making up total of 188 points. After that, you'll get 1 Defense/AP for each point.

Hero/Defense Crit Damage
- 15 points.
~43.9 Crit Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 658 points. After that, you'll get 3.5 Crit Damage for each point.

Defense Range/Speed
The stat have no diminishing returns. The scaling is 1:1 all up to the end.

- Note: Defense Speed does not seem to buff Attack Speed of other towers, but only increases pulse times of your damage beam.
Gunwitch
Hero Damage
- 15 points.
~75.2 Hero Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 1,128 points. After that, you'll get 6 Hero Damage for each point.

Hero Health
- 15 points.
~229.8 Hero Health per point up to 15 points, making up total of 3,447 points. After that, you'll get 9 Hero Health for each point.

Ability Power
- 20 points.
~12.5 AP per point up to 20 points, making up total of 250 points. After that, you'll get 1 AP for each point.

Hero Crit Damage
- 15 points.
~250.7 Crit Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 3,760 points. After that, you'll get 20 Crit Damage for each point.

Note: Gunwitch has no abilities that scale from Tower related stats.
Mystic
Hero Damage
- 15 points.
~37.5 Hero Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 564 points. After that, you'll get 4 Hero Damage for each point.

Hero Health
- 15 points.
~613 Hero Health per point up to 15 points, making up total of 9192 points. After that, you'll get 3 Hero Health for each point.

Defense Damage/Health
- 15 points.
12.5 Defense Health per point up to 15 points, making up total of 188 points. After that, you'll get 1 Defense Health for each point.

15 Defense Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 225 points. After that, you'll get 1 Defense Damage for each point.

Ability Power
- 15 points.
~18 Ability Power per point up to 15 points, making up total of 323 points. After that, you'll get 1 Ability Power for each point.

Hero/Defense Crit Damage
- 15 points.
~43 Crit Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 658 points. After that, you'll get 3.5 Crit Damage for each point.

Defense Speed/Range
Those two stats have no diminishing returns. Their scaling is 1:1 all up to the end.
Lavamancer
Hero Damage
- 15 points.
~50 Hero Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 752 points. After that, you'll get 4 Hero Damage for each point.

Hero Health
- 15 points.
~613 Hero Health per point up to 15 points, making up total of 9192 points. After that, you'll get 3 Hero Health for each point.

Defense Damage/Health
- 15 points.
12.5 Defense Health per point up to 15 points, making up total of 188 points. After that, you'll get 1 Defense Health for each point.

15 Defense Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 225 points. After that, you'll get 1 Defense Damage for each point.

Ability Power
- 20 points.
12.5 Ability Power per point up to 20 points, making up total of 250 points. After that, you'll get 1 Ability Power for each point.

Hero/Defense Crit Damage
- 15 points.
~43 Crit Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 658 points. After that, you'll get 3.5 Crit Damage for each point.

Defense Speed/Range
Those two stats have no diminishing returns. Their scaling is 1:1 all up to the end.
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eStecko  [author] 7 Jan, 2017 @ 5:04pm 
I've come back to the game after a while and updated the guide for Mystic and Lavamancer. Dryad will come later, when I get enough tokens to unlock her, sadly my gems from Dragonfall edition are gone.

Also I've added a simple spreadsheet into the cheat sheet section for some easier orientation, although it will send you to google docs.
eStecko  [author] 5 Nov, 2016 @ 7:35am 
@Nisa Moriyama (sick) Thank you. I'm not sure. I don't follow or play DD2 anymore, just too many games to play and not enough time. But if there are people who will sacrafice their time and send me the information, I'll update the guide.
Heroine Nisa 5 Nov, 2016 @ 12:49am 
Will you update this once the new character is out? Amazing work btw
Ragnaman 8 Aug, 2016 @ 10:53am 
Awesome man, thanks.
This is now in favs for quick access :)
Ragnaman 8 Aug, 2016 @ 5:14am 
Could you put the tl;dr section as the first section ? That would work great for overlay.
eStecko  [author] 21 Jul, 2016 @ 5:53am 
@SonicUnleashedXY Ah, I thought you meant it other way around with her AP. Should be fixed now. <3
SonicUnleashedXY 20 Jul, 2016 @ 4:27pm 
No problem. I think the Gunwitch stats not updated yet. I posted a comment below which you may have missed. It under the EV2 stuff.
eStecko  [author] 20 Jul, 2016 @ 4:00pm 
@SonicUnleashedXY Thanks once again. :)
SonicUnleashedXY 20 Jul, 2016 @ 2:56pm 
Here is the health stat for EV2. I also remove some outdated comments on the Gunwitch which could confuse someone.

Series EV2
Hero Health
- 100 points.
~142.4 Hero Health per point up to 100 points, making up total of 14,242.5 points. After that, you'll get 7.5 Hero Health for each point.
SonicUnleashedXY 20 Jul, 2016 @ 2:09pm 
I'll will add the health once I found the soft cap as I'm lacking points. Defense Speed seems to have zero effect in testing with Buff Beam (Slot 7) & Weapon (Slot 8). The buff beam speed on effecting towers doesn't seems to take into account your speed stat.

Series EV2
Hero Damage
- 15 points.
~75.2 Hero Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 1,128 points. After that, you'll get 6 Hero Damage for each point.

Defense Damage/Health & Ability Power
- 15 points.
~12.5 Defense/AP per point up to 15 points, making up total of 188 points. After that, you'll get 1 Defense/AP for each point.

Hero/Defense Crit Damage
- 15 points.
~43.9 Crit Damage per point up to 15 points, making up total of 658 points. After that, you'll get 3.5 Crit Damage for each point.

Defense Range
The stat have no diminishing returns. The scaling is 1:1 all up to the end.